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"The Real History Of Fatima by Dr. Peter Chojnowski"

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"Fatima Fraud-Our Case For An Imposter Lucy" Full Film 1

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Big Mouthful of Dentures! Watch the Chin! Kevin Symmons Didn't Read Our "Objections and Responses" Page Published, Well.........Years Ago!

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https://sisterlucytruth.org/objections-and-responses/#q8 8. Why don’t dental work or aging explain the differences in appearance between the two Sr. Lucys? Dr. Joseph Mascaro, Dr. Ruud Karsten, Dr. Julio Garcia, and Lois Gibson all independently affirm that the preponderance of physical differences between the two Sr. Lucys  cannot be explained away by dental work, dentures, plastic surgery, or the aging process.  They further state that the differences are so significant that the most reasonable explanation for them is the existence of two separate individuals. When one considers that the success of their professional careers has been based on the rigorous competence of their medical and scientific training, it would be rash to flippantly claim that they were all wrong on the same points. Further, in our facial math measurements report, conducted with the help of an independent prosthodontist, we measured ratios of specific anatomical landmarks to see whether aging could explain the o

Proof that our Experts knew about the dentures. In fact these facts help to demonstrate that there were two different women. Keep trying. But first, READ. We are not idiots, but you seem like one here. Also, Dr. Chojnowski is poorly portrayed. Need a better actor!

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https://sisterlucytruth.org/oral-surgeon-report/ FROM DR. MASCARO'S ORAL SURGEON REPORT After reviewing the photographic and video evidence over the course of several months, it is clear that “Lucy I” (Subject A/B) and “Lucy II” (Subject C/D) are not the same individual. Several anatomical facts support this conclusion particularly when the profiles are compared. RETROGNATHIC VS. PROGNATHIC PROFILES Lucy I’s mouth/teeth tend to extend anteriorly (forward). In other words, her mouth area sticks out relative to her other facial structures. This is an underlying feature of Lucy I’s skeletal structure. This skeletal structure would not significantly change if all of her teeth were extracted and dentures worn. In contrast, Lucy II’s profile presents a nearly opposite condition: a prognathic profile with a concave appearance. TOOTH EXTRACTION AND DENTURES Skeletal structure would not significantly change if all of her teeth were extracted and dentures worn. Dentures, which seem to be at

No Really? The Detractors of Sister Lucy Truth have come out with a ridiculous and comical video that asserts that we and the experts that we have consulted did not take into consideration the real Sister Lucy's dental work and the effects it may have had on her look. Not only did we know about it, but our experts have said in almost every report that dental work DOES NOT EXPLAIN the differences between the pictures. The only explanation for the differences being two separate individuals.

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See the evidence at sisterlucytruth.org In fact, since the experts received photos of the real Sister Lucy before and after her dental work in the late 40s, and they still judged that the woman appearing first in 1967 is not the same individual would not that fact add greater weight to the case that we are dealing with two separate individuals.  If this is their best argument against the scientifically demonstrated claim that there were two "Sister Lucys" --- a mere Strawman argument with dentures --- they are getting desperate, I think. And, by the way, thanks for the publicity! Also, to my knowledge, handwriting is not affected by the getting of dentures. 

A Sister Lucy Truth Update -The Fatima Investigation. Clear Findings in the Case Demonstrate that John Paul II was a Liar of the Highest Order. He knew this Woman was NOT Sister Lucy and, yet, He Presented Her to the World as if She Was.

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The Last Vision had by the Three Children of Fatima, during the Miracle of the Sun on October 13, 1917, was that of Our Lady of Mount Carmel. Wouldn't You Think that "Sister Lucy" in her book "Calls" (published in 2000) Would Mention Something About Wearing the Brown Scapular when Speaking About this Apparition? Nope.

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https://sisterlucytruth.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Calls-Commentary.pdf Our Lady of Mount Carmel Has Nothing to Do with the Brown Scapular In the chapter dealing with “the call to a life of total consecration to God,” “Sister Lucy” starts out: In my view,  the apparition of Our Lady of Mount Carmel means total consecration to God.  By showing herself clothed in a religious habit, she wished to represent all the other habits by which those who are totally consecrated to God can be distinguished from ordinary secular Christians. (p. 180) Later on in this chapter in which nothing other than the religious life is discussed, we hear the constant refrain from “Sister Lucy” about the necessity of “obedience”: All of us, but more especially consecrated souls, need to live by faith: that faith which sees God in others,  in authority,  and in everything that happens: that faith which assures us that  authority represents God  and, then, by obeying, we are doing the will of God. (p. 181) Sure

Able to Withstand and Overcome the Arians and the Muslims, the Toledo Cathedral is Desecrated by the Scum of the Modernist church and the Apostate Spanish Culture. It Seems as If Once Franco has been Ripped from His Grave Anything Goes. The Greatest Desecration in this Primatial Church has been, of course,, the Novus Ordo Missae.

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/09/europe/catholic-church-toledo-music-video-apology-spain-scli-intl/index.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_Cathedral In the name of the Lord the Church of Saint Mary was consecrated as Catholic, the first day of the ides of April, in the joyful first year of the reign of our most glorious king Flavius Reccared, Era 625 [13 of April of 587]. The city had been the episcopal seat of  Visigothic  Spain. The numerous  Councils of Toledo  attest to its important ecclesiastical past. Also, the abjuration of  Arianism  on the part of  Reccared  occurred there. The  Muslim  invasion did not immediately eliminate the Christian presence and the bishopric remained established in the church of Saint Mary of Alfizén Dr. Chojnowski: Not only was this the church, dating back to the 6th century before the Muslim Invasion, in which King Reccardo converted from Arianism to the true Catholic Faith, but its current form, a gem of the High Gothic Period, was begun by or

04 October 2021 “Religion and Science: Towards COP26” With a Special Appearance by.........Francis!!! It looks like Roncalli, Montini, the New Theologians Got Exactly What They Wanted, a Church that is Nothing But a Conduit of the New World Order.

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1957-The Last Interview of Sister Lucy of Fatima. What Sister Lucy actually said about the New Efficacy Given by God to the Rosary.

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Rev. Sam Osborne, Mysteries of the Mass, Gnosticon 4, Sept. 18th 2021. An Explanation of the Gnostic Rite of "Mass" that Leads Us to Wonder Why this Intentional Mass of the Albigensian, Manichean, and Gnostic Heretics is Almost Identical to the New Mass of the Masonic Paul VI.

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From the recent Gnosticon. We ask ourselves the question  as to why this ritual, intentionally heretical and invoking all the major heretics of the distant past --- resembles so much the Novus Ordo Missae of the Masonic Paul VI, both in the ritual itself, the attitude of the celebrant (I think he would be classified as a "reverent" "conservative" "priest" --- by our friends on EWTN), and in the naturalistic Teilhardian theology articulated by the "priest." Could it be that the effective banning of the "Latin Mass" is payback by people associated with this Kabbalistic sect for the "burning of the Cathars," who are mentioned here as "saints"? The rejection of vicarious atonement by these heretics is very interesting, since we see the same thing in the theology of the Neo-Modernist heretic Josef Ratzinger. It is not the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ that is offered by these Neo-Manicheans, but rather the "

Novus Ordo Cincinnati to Reorganize Parishes into Large "Families" of Parishes with One "Priest" Per Many Parishes. Declining Numbers since 1970 and a Catastrophic Collapse in the Number of "Priests" since 1970 (Hmmmm!) from 450 to 150, Requires this Reorganization. Let's think "Cause and Effect." Nah. Couldn't be.

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  https://www.yahoo.com/news/priest-numbers-dwindling-cincinnati-archdiocese-165000181.html

Socialists take Germany, Sodomites take Switzerland, and the Latin Mass Banned. Are we winning yet? When will the "traditional right" revise its tactics? The tactics that have lost the Christian West over the course of the last 250 years.

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  https://news.trust.org/item/20210926155602-soh8c https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/26/germany-election-worst-ever-result-momentarily-silences-cdu https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/bishop-backs-lgbt-eucharist-bans-latin-mass

"Fatima Fraud-Our Case For An Imposter Lucy" Full Film 1. This is a recording of the first and so far only in-person presentation of the Findings from the Sister Lucy Truth investigation. It was recorded at the Fatima Conference in Spokane, Washington in Oct. 2019.

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Here is a complete audio presentation of our first, and so far only, in-person presentation of the results of the Sister Lucy Truth investigation  that began in 2017 and continues to this very day. After listening to this and viewing all of our so-far-published information at sisterlucytruth.org , please tell us if we have not at least shown you that there is need for an investigation into the case of Sister Lucy dos Santos, the famous Seer of Fatima.  As was even clear 2 years ago, but has become clearer over the past months, when we are dealing with the case of Sister Lucy dos Santos, the actual seer of Fatima, who predicted and witnessed the Miracle of the Sun on October 13, 1917, we find that we are clearly and undeniably dealing with a case of stolen identity that could be the result of murder, kidnapping, or illicit confinement . The overwhelming evidence backing up that assertion, plus the total lack of real scientific evidence that would argue the contrary, has been presented b

"SLT, Fatima Fraud- Part III, BUSTED": Our Case for an Imposter Lucy.

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"Dr. Mascaro's Oral Surgeon Report for Sister Lucy Truth." Why do objective observers and experts see it as clear, while our "Fatima Experts" say, "She is older! She has dentures!"? Please. Read the reports. Get angry. Seek justice for Sister Lucy. It cries out to Heaven for Vengeance.

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What Sense Should We Make of the Fact that Cardinal Luciani (John Paul I) Met with "Sister Lucy" in 1977?

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https://crc-internet.org/further-information/archives-hir/n-217-january-2021/they-assassinated-him.html Cardinal Luciani’s attitude was quite different. His profound humility and extreme modesty had predisposed him to receive the very special grace of his conversation with Heaven’s messenger, on July 11, 1977. The following year, in his Easter homily, he said to his diocesan faithful: “ The idea  never even occurred to me that Sister Lucy  dos Santos  could be inferior to me, a bishop and a cardinal. On the contrary, I thought: What good fortune for me to be able to talk with this little Sister who saw Our Lady! The only true grandeur in the Church is not to occupy such and such a position but to be saints . “ During the Passion and Resurrection of Jesus, the women play a more edifying role than that of the men. Jesus did not call on the women to preach, as He did the seventy disciples or the twelve Apostles. On the other hand, He wanted them to help and encourage the Apostles. All dow

What Paul VI told his close friend Jean Guitton Concerning his "Meeting" with "Sister Lucy" on May 13, 1967. Warning: Get Ready to Get Angry.

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https://crc-internet.org/further-information/archives-hir/n-217-january-2021/they-assassinated-him.html What Jean Guitton, close friend of Paul VI, said about his friends 1967 meeting with "Sister Lucy" Let us remember that that Pius XII and Paul VI had refused to grant her a one-to-one meeting. As Paul VI had seen her on May 13, 1967, Guitton asked him: “ What impression did Lucy make on you? ” “ Oh! She is a very simple girl, an uncomplicated peasant woman. The people wanted to see her, and I showed her to them .” Dr. Chojnowski: The first thing that strikes you about this statement coming from Paul VI concerning his impressions of "Sister Lucy" is their dismissive tone. He clearly does not want to speak about her, but since his good friend Guitton has brought up the subject, he must say something. Also, his "meeting" with "Sister Lucy," according to contemporary newspaper accounts, only lasted 3 minutes and much of the 3 minutes was taken up r

Opus Dei Wants "All In" to Bergoglio's NewChurch of Mandatory Modernism. If They Cannot Even Stand Up to Francis's Endorsement of Sodomite Civil Unions, Their Designation as a "Conservative Catholic" Organization is a Sick Joke.

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                   "Get rid of that mean priest," said Francis. "Yes, dear Holy Father," said, Msg. Fernando Ocariz, Prelate of the Personal Prelature of Opus Dei. https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/739351/

"Fatima Fraud -Live Part II"

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Ex Dutch Banker Ronald Bernard Exposes the ELITE, (Part 1,2,3). What is this present world "about"? Listen to someone who has been "there." Apparently, body language experts insist that he is speaking the truth. Banking, the Occult, and Satanic Worship. Ronald survives because he does not name names.

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Sister Lucy Truth Needs Your Help: We Will Press on Like Never Before.

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"The First Live Presentation of the Fatima Investigation"

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Fr. Dominic Bourmaud's "One Hundred Years of Modernism" Correctly Identified Modernism as an Epistemological Heresy --- Hence its Radical Nature. Arius spoke, wrongly, about "Substance," while Modernism Reduces Everything to Mindstuff. Thank you, Father, for reminding us of that!

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  In One Hundred Years of Modernism: A Genealogy of the Principles of the Second Vatican Council , trans. Anne-Marie Temple   (Kansas City, MO: Angelus Press, 2006) , Fr. Dominic Bourmaud SSPX (RIP), begins his discussion of the "synthesis of all heresies," in the following way: "Modernism is one hundred years old. Larousse describes the heresy as the religious crisis marking the pontificate of Pius X (1903-1914). The same dictionary also highlights the crux of the crisis, namely, the efforts of its proponents to harmonize traditional Catholic doctrine with the new philosophy and modern biblical criticism . In short, it was a struggle of generations within the very bosom of the eternal Church, a struggle ultimately resolved by compelling the new to fall into line with the old....With St. Pius X, the case seemed closed. So why pore over dusty old documents to revive a dead issue of scant interest even to the most ardent amateur of Church history?      But, to quote G.K. C

In Tribute to a Genuine Intellectual and Scholar, Fr. Dominic Bourmaud SSPX. I helped edit his work "100 Years of Modernism" and worked with him on the Angelus Magazine, played soccer with him, served his Mass and shared a lamb dinner. RIP. May you swiftly be with the Eternal High Priest.

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Well, the Uprising in Rome did not Happen. "Latin Mass Communities" Grovel at the Feet of the Modernist Idolators and Beg "Patience" and "Understanding" Concerning their Attachment to "Certain Liturgical Forms." How can we avoid saying that these men are simply Novus Ordo ministers who are no more than Modernists in Fancy Dress? Listen to the Craven Statement in the Video Below.

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Occupy St. Peter's! Regain the Altars of Rome. Let's Do What Should Have Been Done 50 years ago.

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  When we think of the recent back and forth as to whether the "Latin Mass Societies" of the FSSP, the Institute of Christ the King, and the Good Shepherd Institute were "called to Rome" by Francis or whether they we going there on their own initiative to "discuss recent developments," we wonder at the tepid reply to Bergoglio's attempt to liquidate the remnants of Catholic worship and the faith that went with it from the institutional organization of the Catholic Church. Do these men, who must be assumed to be acting in "good faith," see this "hat in hand" response as the proper response to the insulting and vicious attack on their own perceived mission?      Do they really believe that they must be moved in any way by a man who believes that what we have commonly known to be the Catholic Religion, was simply a product of the 30 Years War in the 1600s?A man who in his public professions and published writings and interviews shows h

Funding-Sister Lucy Truth. The Latest Forensic Analysis, because of all the Pictures that had to be Looked at, Had a Huge Bill Attached to It. Please be Generous as We Move on to the Documentary and DNA aspects of this Investigation. We will Soon Have All the Reports that SLT has Commissioned at sisterlucytruth.org. Things are Getting Intense!

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When Have the Warnings of Our Lady of La Salette and those of Anne Catherine Emmerich Concerning Rome Losing the Faith and the Appearance of a Counterfeit Church been More Perfectly Realized than at this Moment in History?

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From a Reader of RadTrad Thomist: Our Lady of La Salette   It certainly seems as though the following prophecies have come to pass in 1958, exactly 100 years after Our Lady of La Salette wanted her message to be revealed.     “Melanie, what I am about to tell you now will not always be a secret. You may make it public in 1858.    “ The priests, ministers of my Son, the priests, by their wicked lives, by their irreverence and their impiety in the celebration of the holy mysteries, by their love of money, their love of honors and pleasures, and the priests have become cesspools of impurity.  Yes, the priests are asking vengeance, and vengeance is hanging over their heads. Woe to the priests and to those dedicated to God who by their unfaithfulness and their wicked lives are crucifying my Son again! The sins of those dedicated to God cry out towards Heaven and call for vengeance, and now vengeance is at their door, for there is no one left to beg mercy and forgiveness for the people. Ther

In 2005, why did Cardinal Ratzinger Order the Cell of "Sister Lucy" sealed immediately after "her" death? Was it to do a deep DNA scrub? Let our investigators into that cell! Show us that we are wrong.

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"A Message from Dr Chojnowski" -Sister Lucy Truth: A Challenge to Catholic Chivalry.

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50th Anniversary of Fr. Joaquin Saenz y Arriaga's book, "The Montinian Church." After 50 years many are coming to realize that we have a..........drum roll.....a Montinian Church!

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  https://www.amazon.com/Montinian-Church-Joaquin-Saenz-Arriaga/dp/0692298258/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=montinian+church&qid=1629080654&sr=8-1

"Objections and Responses to the Fatima Investigation" - No.10 Why wouldn't family members recognize that a fraud was being perpetrated?

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Dr. Chojnowski: When you think about the restrictive situation in which a Carmelite nun lives, you can say that the enemies of the Church would see this as one of the easiest venues from which to pull off a substitution. A substitution by one who would follow along with every single aspect of the doctrinal and liturgical revolution of NewChurch, along with one that would allow the redirection of the Fatima Message to focus upon an affirmation of the Modernist Revolution and the perpetrators of that Revolution. The change worked out perfectly for the perpetrators, it went without a hitch until Sister Lucy Truth decided that it must discover the truth of the matter using the latest scientific, medical, and forensic means available. Without Sister Lucy Truth the fraud would have remained in place, relegated to the individual intuitions of individuals who could see that there was something very different about these two women. The apparent conspiracy, would have succeeded without a hitch.

"Sister Lucy" Cited Caiaphas as the Proper Interpreter of the "for many" in the Consecration formula of the Mass in order to Validate John Paul II's Universal Salvation teaching. Reveals that Benedict XVI's "glorious" "for many" change was just as Heretical as the "for all" of the Wacky 70s Formula. Sorry Mike and Chris, I don't think the days of Benedict XVI were so "glorious" afterall!

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  https://sisterlucytruth.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Calls-Commentary.pdf Theologically Erroneous Reflections on the Eucharist and “For Many” Much of the text of  Calls , at least until p. 134, is made up of pious and theological reflections concerning  lines taken from the words of the Angel of Portugal to the Three Children. They are so general and scriptural that anyone with a knowledge of basic Catholic spirituality could have written them as meditations on the words of the Angel. The place that I believe is worth considering as to the question of authenticity, is found on p. 113, and consists of a meditation on the Holy Eucharist and what the Redemption means. The text, on p. 113, reads as follows: “Jesus gives us his Body  and then His Blood  which, He says, is ‘poured out for many’.” This woman obviously attends the Novus Ordo Mass in which “communion” is received under the  species of both bread and wine; first the host is received in the hand, and then you walk over to the

Coochie Coo! No Latin Mass for You! Marxist Cardinal to Enforce Bergoglio's Attempt to Eliminate the Catholic Religion from the Catholic Church. Since They Cannot Eliminate the Real Church, isn't this the EndGame for the Alta Vendita Plot Against the Church?

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Cardinal Braz de Aviz Congratulates Boy for Wearing a Red Sweater! https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/vatican-sources-pope-francis-will-use-spy-system-left-wing-cardinal-to-suppress-traditional-latin-mass/ Dr. Chojnowski: The absurdity of the situation must hit even the most convinced Neo-Gallicans/Jansenists who continue to present as traditional the idea that the Catholic Church can for 60 years produce corrupting doctrine and practice and present this to the faithful. Even these people, who completely destroy the very essence of the Catholic Church, must see that doctrinally speaking you cannot have the Hierarchy of the Church and its Magisterium officially -- in the Acts of the Apostolic See --- attempt to eliminate the Catholic Religion from the Catholic Church. Something is very very wrong with this. No saint would evaluate the current situation like the "traditional" clerics and journalists do above. Unthinkable. The saints and fathers would know that Catholic doctrine

The New Atheism: Dr Chojnowski Conference XVII The Ontological Argument. A Conclusion.

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The New Atheism: Dr Chojnowski Conference XVI Attack on The Five Strawmen, Part 2

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The Fatima Investigation-Objections and Responses

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The New Atheism: Dr Chojnowski Conference XV Attack On The Five Strawmen

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The Fatima Investigation - Objections and Responses No. 13 Dr. Chojnowski

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Dr Chojnowski Conference XIII The Darwin Delusion

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The New Atheism: Dr Chojnowski Conference XIV The Locke Box

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Silence in the Ratzinger Corner? Maybe because the Motu's drive for the Elimination of the Mass can be Traced to Josef Ratzinger's Rejection of the Catholic Theology of the Mass in His Critical Text, "Introduction to Christianity"?

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"Wonderful book, Josef! No more of that 'blood and guts stuff,' just "Total Self-Giving"! From Josef Ratzinger's book, Introduction to Christianity , trans. J.R. Foster (New York: Herder and Herder, 1970), pp. 213-215. From the chapter, "The Christological Articles of the Creed" and the subsection, "Suffered Under Pontius Pilate, Was Crucified, Dead and Buried": "What position is really occupied by the cross within faith in Jesus as the Christ....As we have already established, the universal Christian consciousness in this matter is extensively influenced by a much-coarsened version of St. Anselm's theology of atonement [Notice he only traces this back to the 11th century and not to the Deposit of the Faith]....To many Christians, and especially to those who only know the faith from a fair distance, it looks as if the cross is to be understood as part of a mechanism of injured and restored right. It is the form, so it seems, in wh

Dr. Marian Horvat, who was TOTALLY Unresponsive to our Early Request for Cooperation, Makes the Ridiculous Claim that Sister Lucy Truth has not Gone Beyond the Personal Analysis of the Pictures of the Two Sister Lucys done by Horvat herself. As We Said in the Beginning of Our Investigation, the Perception was Had by Others Concerning the Two Sister Lucys, but We were going to Use the Latest Scientific Techniques and Expertise to Determine the Truth of the Matter. We also are not satisfied by saying, "Perhaps we will know the truth [of the matter] at the Last Judgment."

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  Chojnowski Watering Wet Ground Dear Dr. Horvat,  I remember reading a number of your articles ( here  and  here ) on this subject more than a decade ago... it seemed to me at the time that your photographic analysis was quite definitive.   Dr. Chojnowski has resurrected your original thesis and is attracting a good deal of attention for his Sister Lucy Truth site.  Has Dr. Chojnowski uncovered any new information on this topic or merely capitalizing on your original work?       J.K.  ______________________ Dr. Horvat responds:  Dear J.K.,  Thank you for your inquiry.  I do not believe that Dr. Chojnowski has uncovered any new information, although he has raised considerable funds and hired a company to demonstrate that a careful analysis of the two sets of pictures shows: the impossibility that the face of Sister Lucy II is the same as Sister Lucy I.   However, this had already been demonstrated by The Servants of the Holy Family in Colorado who hired an age progression and regressio