The Term "Diabolical Disorientation" Must Be Thrown into the Waste Bin of Refuted Statements of "Sister Lucy." Evidence Clearly Shows that ANY Statement by "Sister Lucy" After 1958 CANNOT Be Accepted as Genuine.

Diabolical Collusion, Not "Diabolical Disorientation"
Dr. Chojnowski: Below is an article by Fr. Nicholas Gruner from 2006 in which he speaks about the "diabolical disorientation" that was "Sister Lucy's" explanation of the Crisis in the Catholic Church post-Vatican II. When Fr. Gruner indicates what he understands "disorientation" to mean, he uses the example of a person in a strange room waking up at night, in the dark, and not knowing where anything is. He stumbles around and bangs into things and thinks the closet door is the exit door to the room, etc. We have all had this experience. We remember and expect one thing and yet our mental habits that have governed our waking up at night in our own familiar room are not adequate to deal with this new situation. We stumble and in a disoriented way think that the closet is the exit door. This is probably a good example to use for the faithful Catholic now who expects to find the usual Catholic Church and instead finds the evil, scandalous, and apostate organization that we forget for a moment (sometimes for 50 years) is NOT the Catholic Church but an organization with new teachings, a new morality, new worship, and a new purpose --- something that the real and familiar Catholic Church could NEVER HAVE. But, what happens then when you are so disoriented. You stop to THINK for a moment and say, yes, I remember now, I am not at home in my own bedroom but in a hotel room in Salt Lake City say. OK. Now mentally situating ourselves AND REALIZING THAT WE ARE NOT IN OUR NORMAL HOME BUT IN A STRANGE PLACE, we look for and find the LIGHTS, so that we will no longer stumble around but head straight for the facilities or out the door for a refreshing breakfast. If we KEEP stumbling around ACTING AS IF THIS IS OUR OWN BEDROOM AND NOT A STRANGE HOTEL ROOM, it is our own fault. Either we are intentionally refusing to think or we like pretending, in the dark, that this is our own bedroom and that we are safely at home. 

The Modernist hierarchy of the Conciliar Church, however, is not stumbling around. They know exactly where everything is and why it is there because they are the owners of the new hotel AND THEY PUT EVERYTHING EXACTLY WHERE IT IS. They picked out the wall paper and decided on the bed spreads for queen-size bed. To mix the metaphor, we are the ones on the ride "Conciliar House of Horrors" at the local Aggiornamento "amusement" park. We are scared as we go through the ride, having one bizarre, freakish, chilling, and down right terrifying monster jump out at us --- clowns, they are the worst! --- But when the ride breaks down, the owners and maintainers of the ride "The Conciliar House of Horrors" stop the ride --- maybe apologize over the loud speaker, get their tool kits, in perfect knowledge of the layout of the ride walk through it and find out what is wrong, fix it, and then go to start the ride up again. They are not scared of what is in the ride, THEY ARE NOT DISORIENTED. They designed the ride and many good folk keep getting back in line for the same ride hoping that it might get "more Catholic" as they go through for the nthteenth time. IT WON'T. IT IS A HOUSE OF HORRORS. IT IS MEANT TO BE LIKE IT IS. I hate to say it but, that is how the owners make their money. They live off that which terrifies us. They are not disoriented IN ANY WAY. They know what the "old" Church taught and they reject it. That is why they got their positions in the "hierarchy" in the first place. No one who did not want to be involved in "horror" would want to be involved or even hired on. The owners would know immediately that you were not really "into it." 

I wish Sister Lucy Truth had been around during the time of Fr. Gruner so that its investigation would clear up this dubious idea coming from the fraudulent "Sister Lucy." The very idea of "diabolical disorientation" is disorienting itself. It makes us believe that the perpetrators of the Modernist Revolution and their successors were "disoriented." Nope. These were men who knew exactly what they were doing. The only one's "disoriented" are the good and faithful Catholics who stumble about in the dark. That is UNTIL they TURN ON THE LIGHTS. 

Here is the relevant parts of Fr. Gruner's article in the Fatima Crusader in 2006: 

Diabolical DisorientationAn Explanation of the Current Crisis


Taken from the Summer, 2006 Issue, THE FATIMA CRUSADER

NOTE: The term "Diabolical Disorientation" comes up in conversation more and more frequently. What is it? What does it mean? What does it have to do with me? Father Gruner answers your questions about this epidemic that has been slowly infecting large segments of the Catholic Church collectively as well as many individual souls of the Faithful.

"WHEN a person is disoriented, he is in a state of confusion and loses his bearings. He does not understand things clearly. It's similar to being away and sleeping in a room where the bed, the window, the door are all different from your own room at home. And upon waking up suddenly in the middle of the night, you are at first disoriented, confused----Where am I? Where's the door, where's the window? So most people have actually experienced disorientation.

Diabolical disorientation, on the other hand, is when a person is when a person is 
disoriented by various tricks of the devil. These diabolical tricks are not simply a kind of possession portrayed on television and in the movies. The devil, the purveyor of diabolical disorientation, manages often to give the targeted person a perception quite different from reality and yet, the person so diabolically disorientated is convinced what he thinks is the truth when it is actually a lie.
In fact, it seems that it is the leadership in the Church, most of all, that is suffering this diabolical disorientation. 

Where Did the Phrase "Diabolical Disorientation" Originate?We can thank Sister Lucy of Fatima for coining the term. You will find it in her writing, especially between 1969 and 1971. Time and again, she comes back to this statement. 

With so many changes going on in the Church since Vatican II, faithful Catholics and friends reported to Sister Lucy, strange activities of various clergymen, bishops and priests. The Catholic faithful knew that something was wrong. And so they asked Sister Lucy for her advice on this. She explained that it is diabolical disorientation. The devil is behind it, she said, and the devil has misled many people, surprisingly even bishops and Cardinals; and although she has not said it, maybe even the Pope himself."

Dr. Chojnowski: Here is just a little bit of our evidence that what was being put forward as "Sister Lucy," whether in photographic record or in "her" letters was fraudulent. The only possible reason why they would have been forged and faked was because the real Sister Lucy was no longer on the scene. 

For photographic tampering by the "disoriented" Rogues who substituted a fraud for the real Sister Lucy for the May 13, 1967 50th Anniversary of the Apparitions at Fatima event, this photo appearing only ONE MONTH after the actual event took place, see

For sworn testimony from a professional handwriting analyst on the fraudulent nature of a letter from "Sister Lucy" in 1969 ---- demanding submission to Paul VI on the part of the Faithful --- see


  1. Never liked that weak term in the first place, this is just the proverbial cherry on top.

  2. Excellent commentary on the diabolical disorientation. The architects of Vatican ll were not and have not been disoriented at all. They have known from the get go where they wanted to take this operation. There entire goal has been to disorient the faithful. Incrementalism has been the game. 27 years of JPll, the sometimes Catholic sounding pontiff, who was a master of spreading disorientation. Under his wicked pontificate came the spread of ecumenism, subjectivism feminism and most poisonous, Judaism, to the point where he fully embraced, exonerated and elevated the sanhedrin.One of the most depraved acts of the council and it's aftermath was to get rid of the power of the Holy Spirit. The real Holy Spirit, the third person of the Trinity who imparts the gifts and the fruits. He was replaced with the Zeitgeist and the charismatic movement, a necessary replacement for the new operation. A Catholic aware of the power of the Holy Spirit that dwells within him is not likely to fall for their lies and innovations. The Holy Spirit is a Restrainer....thus they did away with the Pentecostal Octave and the Pentecostal season. Was there ever a serious outcry over this act of terrorism?.Bergoglio is the full revelation of the rotten council. They now figure the faithful are so disoriented that they can do whatever they want.

    1. I have never thought of 'Diabolical Disorientation' as referring to the Freemasons, Apostate Hierarchy and Communists who staged the malignant and destructive Vatican II. They were then - and still are - willing minions of Satan.
      I regard Vatican II with its false popes; false 'Sister Lucy'; and False Catholic religion as being the tool of Satan and the enemies of the True Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ to cause the PEOPLE to be diabolically disorientated.
      You only have to read real Catholic blog sites to see the mental and spiritual agony of those who are not sure what to believe any more.
      As I told my adult Children - the only hope we have is regular Mass and the holy Sacraments; the Rosary, an unshakeable and firm faith in the Holy Spirit; prayer and protection [ St Benedict medals at all 4 corners of the house - holy water - the Sacred Heart home Blessing and ALWAYS HOPE!

  3. Agreed! The Modernists aren't some hapless frogs waiting to turn into princes when "the Fatima curse is finally lifted." They chose to be who they are.

  4. All of the content you have posted is both convincing and heartbreaking (thinking of the end Sr. Lucy might have faced at the hands of evil men). But in the end, uf you don't find a way to make it acceptable to the many who will simply cry "conspiracy nut theory," it will be received about as well as the evidence surrounding Obama's birth certificate forgery. The evidence is there and plain to see but those with a stake in preserving the status quo will simply reject it and by doing so, will lead their minions to do the same, blindly. If sister Lucy died in the late 50s or was murdered, that complicates the chaos in the church since that time even further to an absurd degree and let's face it, there are a good number of people making their livelihood off of the church chaos. I wish you well, and may the blessed mother protect you. But I think it all boils down to what Sr. Lucy said in that final interview. We can't wait for those in the church or others to guide us to God and his truth. We have to do what we can to save our souls and those around us. We have the tools given to us through the church's ages; we have to put our trust in them and not in men, no matter how trustworthy they seem. We've all been affected by this madness to one extent or another.

  5. I always liked the term "diabolical disorientation" myself, esp. during this current Pontificate: Is B XVI the Pope? Or, is Francis the Pope? Or, do we have two Popes? (No thank you, Gänswein.) Is Francis an Anti-Pope? Or, has the Barque been vacant since P XII? What kind of Catholic am I? ~ Neo- ? Conservative-? Traditional-? Orthodox-? (I always thought there was ONE HOLY CATHOLIC & APOSTOLIC Church, why are we so tribalistic now?) I'm tend toward Traditional, am wary of everything that comes from the mouth of Bergoglio. Yet, if I reject the Pope (whoever that he may be . . . ), how much of a Catholic can I be? Yes, this age we live disorients us all.

    But, I am persuaded, though, to drop this term from my vocabulary, going forward. Keeping close to the Sacraments and to Our Lady, and relying more and more upon the virtue of Hope. JMJ, please aid to keep me on the narrow path!

    1. I'm entering this conversation the 2nd time around, but what is readily apparent to me is that the 5 minutes of white smoke from the Sistine Chapel chimney 2 days before John XXIII was "irregularly" elected is like the WTC7 of 911 of the prophesied Great Apostasy and Eclipse of the Church, and that episcopal and priestly orders in the newfangled sacramental rites of the homosexual anti-pope Paul VI are invalid, which means we don't have the Eucharist except with the SSPV, CMRI, and others independent of the counterfeit church of darkness arising from a series of anti-popes since 1958. Only these independents have maintained the traditional episcopal consecration and priestly ordination rites without any invalid orders intervening. Much is explained in "Papal Imposters Full Movie" and in "The Siri Project" on youtube (begin with the 3 min. 41 sec. segment), at, and at

      "Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist. The Church will be in eclipse. The world will be in dismay." (Our Lady of La Salette, 1846)

      Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ. (St Athanasius)

      "Is it tradition? Ask no more." (St John Chrysostom)

    2. I was under the false impression that the term "Diabolical Disorientation" was used by the real Sr Lucia. Knowing otherwise after reading this, I can see how diabolically cunning is the use of such a term, since the reality is actually "Diabolical Infiltration" leading to "Diabolical Control of the Vatican and of a False Papacy." I do think, however, that the term "Diabolical Disorientation" seems appropriate for the "Abomination of Desolation," otherwise known as the homosexual Paul Vi's "New Mass."

    3. For those who didn't know about Paul VI's serious "affective disorder," see and two other short related articles there. Apparently it wasn't just a homosexual orientation resisted by prayer and mortification.

  6. Hawks Overhead, is that not also the Epistle of St Jude in the book before the Apocalypse?

  7. The Vatican II sect is not the Catholic Church. The rotten fruits of Vatican II is all to apparent. Sister Lucia was most likely martyred in 1958 as was Pope Pius XII. It is only pride and bad will that keeps the blind sheep in the cult. It isn't coincidence that the cult has no power to remove the evil pro abortion laws Satan cannot cast out Satan. God does not respond to prayer from heretics unless they renounce their heresy. No one can claim ignorance, comparing what the true Church believed before 1958 and what the cult believes show that the Vatican II sect is not the Catholic Church.

  8. The last time Fr Fuentes interviewed Sr Lucy she looked very sad and ill, not like the jolly Sr Lucy of later times, the childten of Fatima always looked grave, hardly surprising since they seen Hell. Also the phase "In Portugal the Dogma of the Faith will always be preserved". Consider 3 thousand troops guarding the Shrine to prevent pilgrims from visiting it recently.

    1. Knowing what we know now about the creation of a counterfeit Vatican II NewChurch, it seems more than probable that the phase "In Portugal the Dogma of the Faith will always be preserved," since it wasn't in Sr Lucia's Third Memoir and we only see it in a footnote of her Fourth Memoir, that it was either fabricated by the cunning agents of Satan in the Vatican, drawing attention away from the takeover of the papacy by means of "sede impedita" (becoming "sede vacante" in 1989) and toward a "Recognize and Resist" attitude among traditional-minded Catholics, or else, if genuine, then followed by words such as " a remnant faithful to Catholic tradition."


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