Fraud: Facial Recognition Technology With 2,400 Picture Comparisons Shows Sister Lucy I (Pre-1958) and Sister Lucy II (Post-1958) are Definitely NOT the Same Person.
|Sister Lucy I: Missing|
Sister Lucy II: Impostor
On advice, I will not yet reveal the names of the investigators, the names of the companies involved, or the names of the programs being used. They are the best. They are all working on a comprehensive and definite report on the results and this will be released in the coming weeks. I want to avoid any interference in the investigation. After the final facial recognition report is complete, the second phase of the investigation will be launched which will be finding out the identity of the Imposter and finding out what happened to our dear Sister Lucy dos Santos.
This news is of a monumental historic event. This will go far beyond just dealing with the Fatima apparitions, but indeed it will explain what has happened to the Church in general. Others who had more resources and more established so-called apostolates did nothing. And you, Mr. Chojnowski, have made history by starting this great initiative of truth. God bless you.ReplyDelete
I wouldn't like to get ahead of myself on this, especially so remembering that Fatima is an approved apparition. Perhaps the answer is as simple as teeth reconstruction and eating better? In the end, Christ's guarantee regards the Truth of doctrine taught by the Church and for me, that is therefore, the best focus when the only other alternative is speculation. (Prayer being required in all cases!)Delete
Teeth reconstruction? How about complete face and personality reconstruction? You think that happened too?Delete
The real Sr Lucia died in 1958. Not a doubt in my mind that horrible imposter we saw after 1967 is now rotting in hell...along with those involved in the cover up.Delete
Amen. It is as many have suspected. Skulduggery and deception. Lets see how the gatekeepers try to handle this. The dragnet has been unleashed and it will sweep up virtually all higher ups in this criminal fraud of the Vat 2 fake "catholic" church. Thanks be to God!ReplyDelete
Here's how they'll "handle it". They'll funnel some money to a shill somewhere to launch "his own independent investigation" which will use the same tech to conclusively state "it's the same woman 100%. Spin, obfuscate, spin, spin, spin, repeat.Delete
Congratulations! Well done! Very well done! BTW, your story is being given good coverage on CathInfo.com and it should be given very good coverage around the world in various and many different venues!ReplyDelete
Our Lady will surely bless you for your defense of her. This substitution is a blasphemy against her and her Son and the more people work to expose it, the better for all of us poor humans. It is our duty to defend our Mother. It is the Will of Christ. Sister Lucy has been silenced and the Fatima secret has been covered up by those other impostors in the Vatican. Impostors everywhere! Now can an impostor be a true Pope? Or is he a wolf in the clothing of sheep as Our Lord said. A wolf is not a member of the sheepfold but rather eats sheep.ReplyDelete
Presumably, Sister Angela de Fatima Coehlo, the Postulator of the Cause for Bl. Jacinta and Bl. Francisco and the Vice-Postulator of the Cause for Sr. Lucia, is keeping a close eye on all this. The Novus Ordo Sr. Coehlo is seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ6lbJYpjo4. If the link does not work just type the following into the youtube search bar: Fatima. "The Message of Fatima" (1 of 6): by Sr Angela Coelho, Fatima Postulator. 2013ReplyDelete
Scoffers have often criticized Fatima using these question, "So, what is meant by the 'errors of Russia,' anyway? Did the lady of the visions ever explain what she was referring to?" Now we have a new prime example of how Communist tactics of subterfuge and covert operations to publish lies as if they're pravda --- uuh, I mean, the truth. Hopefully the Fatima Center (Canada flavor) will come around to realizing they've taken the wrong turn. They've got their work cut out for them. As it stands, the Servants of Jesus and Mary (Buffalo) are in a much better position.ReplyDelete
"So, what is meant by the 'errors of Russia"
1. The non-doctrinal religious movement among the Orthodox putting the creed aside for active spirituality only.
Which creates the inability to know God an His personality and to discern spirits.
2. The Patriarch of the Orthodox Church being appointed by the Tzar.
An inversion of the Divine Order making the soul of civilization subject to the body of civilization.
3. The belief in evolution.
4. Abortion being approved by the civil authority.
Both of which put God and family to death.
5. The use of controlled opposition.
Thank you for your efforts. The official Carmelite necrology report for the Carmelite Order released a few years ago and then quickly corrected and removed from the Internet has been now proven true and this is further confirmation that someone in this Religious Community knew and wanted the world to know also.ReplyDelete
Phase Two......Look at Opus Dei !ReplyDelete
The teeth give it away, close but not close enough.ReplyDelete
I hope that the city where Sister Lucia lived will open up a missing persons investigation as well. The State should be involved in this to the extent possible. Also, I would strongly suggest getting the information from the initial investigation out to as many news/media outlets as possible. Though it would be better not to deal with such organizations, the reality is that the knowledge of this will be spread far beyond your circle if they choose to publish your findings. Trustworthy Roman officials should be notified as well, if there are any remaining in Rome.
After studying the hands of the two women, I can say with some certainty that the imposter's ring finger is much longer than the true Sister Lucia's. Fingers don't grow as you get older. It appears that Sister Lucia's right ring finger is shorter than the middle finger, whereas the new Lucia's ring finger is the same length or even a little longer than the middle finger.ReplyDelete
Congratulations on accomplished the first part of the task. Now the hard part. Idea: How about turning the evidence over to the New York Times and let them announce the two Lucy story. This would give it the kind of secular credibility the Vatican most fears.ReplyDelete
But how do you explain the fact family members visited her and did not notice the substitution?ReplyDelete
They did visit the real Lucy. Everybody else got the fake one. That is my hypothesis.Delete
If you read the interview of Mother Celine of the Coimbre convent shortly after the death of the last Sr Lucia she stated the nuns in the convent have all been Opus Dei Cooporators for decades.Right after the Sr Lucia of Tuy was ordered to put the Third Secret to paper, Escriva mad a visit and in his boook he claimed Lucia told him to open an Opus Dei house in Coimbre which would be the first one outside of Spain. He also said she took care of all the arrangements including Visas.Delete
A read of Carmen del Tapia's biography , escriva's longtime secretary, tells a slightly different story after he came back to Spain and what he told the OD women about his visit to see Lucia.
If the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart truly will conquer satan and his forces and give us Heaven's promised period of peace, wouldn't the enemy (infiltrated in the Vatican and everywhere else) do ANYTHING including assassinations and worse to maintain their demonic hold on the world? I'm sure family members were threatened and even killed over this. Why do you think the globalists think it's so important to blame "Russia Russia Russia" for everything? They want a nuclear war with Russia. My thought is that the luciferians want Russia destroyed before it is consecrated.They believe Sister Lucy's prophesies more that we do.Delete
Carmelites are usually behind a grill even during visits and I have heard Sr Lucy was not able to be seen when visited, but only heard. Someone else may be able to confirm this.Delete
Now, now, like your namesake, you're letting reason and facts get in the way of a good old superstition and a wild conspiracy theory.Delete
Don't hold your breath waiting for a response, although, if there is one, it's sure to be absurdly (and I do mean absurdly) entertaining.
Yes but the supposed imposter was displayed to the world - so everyone could see just what she looked like. Her relatives would be able to see that just as much as anyone else. My point is there does need to be a reasonable explanation for this not hypothesising that other relatives were murdered etc when you can't identify any such person. It is hard to keep these things shut up.Delete
In the Carmel surely the other nuns must have noticed the imposter.They must have beenReplyDelete
ordered to be silent by the bishop or even by Rome.
Now we can dismiss all reported communications from the post-1958 Sister Lucy as fraudulent. This explains why she never said boo about the failure to release the Third Secret by 1960. Even her statements that seemed to be consistent with the overall Fatima message were probably issued to promote her credibility and to mollify devotees of Our Lady of FatimaReplyDelete
I will be praying for safety and perseverance for you and your collaborators in this incredibly courageous and informative expose of one more example of corruption in the heretical hierarchy which has usurped Catholicism for the past 50 years. Please be careful. Please arm yourself with the Rosary, the Scapular, Holy Water, Holy Salt, and yes, even a gun. An animal is never more dangerous than when he is cornered. The lion seeking to devour and his wolves in sheep clothing are being cornered by the clerical sodomitical and pederastic sexual scandal and now by your investigation. Keep the Faith. Our Lord and His Mother will guard and guide you.
Yes, that's what I've been thinking too, "please be careful" Mr Chojnowski. All Hell could be unleashed against you. Holy water and holy salt do work wonders, and a miraculous medal because "all who wear it will receive great graces" said Our Lady to Sr Catherine Laboure. Rosary and scapular of course. Watch your back, as they say. Don't let any visiting priests slip anything into your tea like they did to Fr Villa at times. They could be impostors. AA1025.Delete
So? She (they?) is/are dead. It doesn't matter anymore. The Vatican and its handlers have long ago turned Fatima into nothing but a pious devotion. Besides anyone worth a penny sees the third secret at work anytime he walks into a diocesan Catholic church, hears a sermon there or listens to the latest pronouncement from PF. Psss. This is the third secret: The dogma of faith no longer exists in the Church. Point: Death penalty is now immoral. Now is the time for the flock to defend itself from the wolf.ReplyDelete
Apostasy is half the 3rd Secret. The other half is a natural disaster or devastating war.Delete
Nb: Fatima was the youngest daughter of Muhammed. IMHO, any attempt at understanding the 3rd Secret must include the Moslems.
How far our human race has fallen. Thank you, Mr. Chojnowski.ReplyDelete
A great chastisement will fall on the entire human race; not today as yet, not tomorrow, but in the second half of the twentieth century.
No longer does order reign anywhere and Satan will reign over the highest places directing the course of events. He (Satan) really will succeed in infiltrating to the top of the Church. Also for the Church a time of Her greatest trials will come. Cardinals will oppose Cardinals; Bishops will oppose Bishops and Satan will march amid their ranks, and in Rome there will be changes. What is rotten will fall, and what will fall will never rise again. The Church will be darkened and the world deranged by terror.
A great war will break out within the second half of the Twentieth Century, fire and smoke will fall from Heaven, the water of the oceans will become vapors and the foam will rise up flooding and sinking everything, millions and millions of people will die by the hour and the survivors will envy the dead.
Death will reign everywhere for the errors committed by the foolish and by the partisans of Satan, who, then and only then, will reign over the world. At last, those who will survive all of these events will once more proclaim God and His Glory and serve Him like before, when the world was not as corrupted.
Our Lady would never say "the survivors woujld envy the dead". That is a false apparition from the Novus Ordo and in front of the Novus Ordo empty tabernacle during a Novus Ordo "Eucharistic prayer" from Vatican II Bishop. Like many false apparitions and Novus Ordo carry'ons it is promoted by Bishop Williamson to good folk, perhaps good folk like you. Don't fall for it. It might sound real but the Novus Ordo Church is not the Catholic Church and if they approve an apparition is holds no more water than their approval of the New Mass and various heresies. Stay with Fatima, La Salette, Rue de Bac and all pre-Vatican II approved apparitions and stay away from Bishop Williamson the deceiver and ?Rosicrucian poetry-teller.Delete
That's not the secret of Akita, that's the 3rd secret of Fatima as verified by the late Fr. Malachi Martin and JPII at Fulda and yes, it sounds very much like the (fully approved by a courageous bishop who was being influenced NOT to approve) Akita message. When you put yourself in the position of arbiter of what a local bishop has approved or not approved you're similar to the loons that believe in Medjugorje even though three local bishops have clearly given their ruling. Also, when the form, matter, intention and a validly ordained priest are there the novus ordo is valid, never licit, but valid or do you know more than the late Fr. Hesse? Careful with your "empty tabernacle" sede hubris, there have been eucharistic miracles even from novus ordo consecrations including one in Salt Lake City a few years back and it's not being used or pushed for any Novus Ordo agenda, in fact you don't even hear much about it.Delete
Busted. Bunch of crooks.ReplyDelete
I agree with others.ReplyDelete
This information if it is as thorough as we believe should also be shared inevitably with the secular press.
We know the establishment Catholic press will not touch this.
We've gone from two Sr. Lucias to two Popes, and the alleged 2000 vision of the children seeing a bishop in white as though looking in a mirror with the impression of the Holy Father.
I oftentimes wonder if the life of Sr. Lucia, her silencing and her removal from the public, and attributions made about her are a foreshadowing type for our time with regards to Benedict.
This will certainly shed the Vatican in a whole new light, and even that of John Paul II and what knowledge he might've had with regards to this whole affair.
If they could cover up sex abuse like they have... then it's not so far fetched that they would've began practising much earlier with Fatima.
48 hours into your information that an independent study, using the most advanced technology, has concluded that there are without a doubt two Lucy's, and the silence from the catholic media is deafening. This is a news story with real legs and the left/right/trad media is ignoring it....except for NOW which understands the incredible implications of this study. We are going to find out a lot about who is really interested in the truth and who are just gatekeepers for the novus ordo in the coming days.ReplyDelete
My thoughts. First, I had always thought she looked younger than her age. She "died" almost 100 yo... but I never saw this development coming.ReplyDelete
2nd, I think they can do a dna test using her cousins as donor to compare hers to theirs. That would be like the definite prove.
3rd, look at her theeth. Do we know exactly when she had her theeths corrected? I don't think a 1950 traditional nun would be worried about her smile appearance.
But, nonetheless, this is huge news. The prove Catholic Church is a corrupt organization. NWO should be very nervous right now.
at may 13 2000 jp2 holy communion incident, she does not look 93 at all (born 1907).Delete
more like 73 than 93.
Great comment Gadiel. Excellent point about the teeth. More and more we get the impression that the management of the Catholic Church has a mission that has replaced the saving of souls. The Church is being run in tyrannical way their fear and intimidation. Let us pray for divine intervention.ReplyDelete
The bizare may 13 2000 holy communion from jp2 is proof enough.ReplyDelete
One of the things that lost some respect for Fr. Gruner for me was the video he did with John Vennari some years ago where they discussed the possibility of an imposter Sr. Lucia and they dismissed the idea entirely. This to me seemed dishonest because it seemed to me that they didn't want the Fatima Center to seem "too kooky" by endorsing such an "outlandish" theory. The pictures are and have been painfully obvious to anyone that has eyes to see.ReplyDelete
Why did Fr. Gruner push the line of the conventional official U.S. government narrative regarding 9-11 which was bogus as a 3 dollar bill? That narrative was what got us into all the bogus wars with their untold death and destruction for Israel in the Middle East..Delete
How will the authorities respond? They won't and if they are forced to say something they will dismiss the findings as nothing but the lunatic fringe. Nothing will change.ReplyDelete
I agree that there should be a DNA test.ReplyDelete
The Real Third Secret of Fatima. The secret is the "APOSTASY IN THE CHURCH". http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/B352_Secret.html The impostor sister Lucy. http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/g12htArt2_TwoSisterLucys.htm ‘Third Secret’ Was Written by Sr. Lucy, Handwriting Expert Affirms http://traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/g32ht_Analyst.htmReplyDelete
Did Fr. Gruner think the new one was a fake Sister Lucia? Now there are a lot to sort outReplyDelete
In one of his videos he said no, he didn't believe that. I was never sure if he just didn't want to sound like a "kook" and get absolutely zero response or cooperation from Rome or if he just needed a new set of glasses.Delete
Sister Lucy died in 2005 at the age of 97, the picture on the right was taken in 1962. Time to look at picture from when she was in her 90s. Also people sometimes need false teeth due to medical reasons and it looks like Sr Lucy was a candidate based on the 1st picture. The lighting in the 1st picture has an effect on the overall picture.T his conspiracy theory does nothing but lead people away from the main message of Fatima..Draw your own conclusionsReplyDelete
I actually remember reading that Lucia dos Santos had a Dentist who repaired her teeth for nothing BUT that does not explain the receding chin she had in her youth vs the very prominent chin of the elderly Lucia. Receding chins tend to appear even more receded into the neck with age. I know because I spent time with plastic surgeons doing surgery in the O.R. and recall them speaking on the subject.ReplyDelete
Her chin looked receding in her youth because her teeth were very badly protruding. After those teeth were all pulled and she received normal dentures, she no longer had a receding chin. Please look at her pictures when she became a Carmelite. Her blood sister Maria dos Santos had the same chin in old age. Sometime she put on quite a bit of weight, and then she started to wear glasses. She does sometimes look different in her pictures.Delete
The BVM must be very pleased. Truth will prevail. Its seems plausible that by uncovering one of the root lies of the modernist Church others come to light. It is a large cloak spread by demons that would cover the words and desires of the Mother of God. (3RD secret?) It would be easy to hide the lost boys (clerical sodomites) and heretics under it as well. There is a supernatural victory in this Lucy uncovering. May the fruits of it continue. Thanks you radtrad, and thank you Jesus.ReplyDelete
What year was the false Lucy introduced to the public??ReplyDelete
In the late 50's! The very last known and true interview given by the real Sister Lucy did occur in December 1957.Delete
May 13, 1967, on the 50th Anniversary of Fatima.Delete