Fr Rafferty Interview w Sr Lucy of Fatima/Brown Scapular, Consecration. An Account of the 1950 Interview with the Real Sister Lucy. Was there a 7th Coming of Our Lady or Will There Be One?



Dr. Chojnowski: In this fascinating lecture, given in 1958, Fr. Howard Rafferty speaks about his August 15, 1950 interview with the real Sister Lucy at the Carmelite Convent in Coimbra. At about the 20 minute mark, Fr. Rafferty describes the woman he met on that day, he says she was, "a peasant-type girl....does not look delicate....[He asks the audience to] recall the features of her face as you have seen in her pictures, ROUGH sort of features, THICK sort of features, you would say. And I recall what Walsh [who had also met with the real Sister Lucy] said in his book Our Lady of Fatima, 'She showed no signs in 1917 of becoming the Miss Portugal of that year. In other words, she is not beautiful." 

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Even though Fr. Rafferty, who was a Carmelite Priest and head of a Confraternity of the Brown Scapular, had come to Coimbra with a list of questions, Sister Lucy informed him that she was not allowed to answer questions, "I have been FORBIDDEN FROM ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS." When she was given permission to speak by the priest accompanying Fr. Rafferty, Sister Lucy said that Our Lady had told her, during the September Apparition in 1917, that she would come AS OUR LADY OF MOUNT CARMEL in the October Apparition. In contrast to the Imposter Sister Lucy, who in the book Calls, in the section on the appearance of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, does not mention the wearing of the Brown Scapular at all, Sister Lucy tells Fr. Rafferty that, "The Rosary and the [Brown] Scapular are inseparable. You cannot have one without having the other."

Interestingly enough, Fr. Rafferty, being able to see Sister Lucy in 1950 but NOT in the Fall of 1957, was able to ask a few more questions of the Carmelite before their one-time visit ended. In this 1950 meeting, Sister Lucy indicate that the Holy Father [Pope Pius XII] had NOT SEEN THE CONTENTS OF THE THIRD SECRET YET, nor had he been told what the contents were. Also, LUCIA HAD NEVER BEEN TOLD TO SEND THE LETTER TO HIM. With regard to the Third Secret, Sister Lucy could not speak to Fr. Rafferty about it. Even though this was not said, the tone of the priest's presentation seems to say that the Secret was not even in Rome in 1958. But this, of course, could have been a simple matter of Fr. Rafferty not knowing of the transference of the letter bearing the Third Secret. He takes it for granted, like Sister Lucy seemed to do, that the contents would certainly be made known to the public by 1960, as Our Lady had asked. 

Also, something that I was not aware of, Our Lady, during the May Apparition at Fatima, says that she would come 7 times. Since the Apparitions in 1917 only involved 6 Apparitions, when was the 7th time? 1929 to ask for the Consecration of Russia? Or are we still awaiting this? 


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  1. The Holy Virgin said: I will come HERE (that is, Cova da Iria) a seventh time.

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  2. Depois, voltarei ainda aqui uma sétima vez.

    After, I will even return here a 7th time.
    Fátima, 13 May 1917


    https://vozdefatima.wordpress.com/2015/05/20/primeira-aparicao-de-nossa-senhora-de-fatima/#more-3
    (this site is in Brazil, I think)

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    1. Could "aqui" ("here") mean Portugal? Could it refer to when Our Lady came to Jacinta when she was in the hospital?

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  3. https://www.fatima.pt/en/pages/narrative-of-the-apparitions-

    Afterwards, I will return here yet a seventh time.

    May 13, 1917
    (Fátima, Portugal website. 7 languages.)

    On Home page, click on circle w/3 bars.

    Then on ‘KNOW’

    Then on ‘NARRATIVES’

    7th apparition is documented. Source @ bottom of txt.

    (Translation from Brazilian site is mine. Pls disregard. This is my 1st encounter re narrative of actual 7th apparition. No mention of apparition @ Rianjo?)

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  4. YES. WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE REAL POPE, TRUE HOLY CATHOLIC POPE (HOLY FATHER) TO DO THE REAL CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA WITH ALL THE REAL CATHOLIC BISHOPS OF THE WHOLE WORLD (CATHOLICS ONLY, NOT LUCIFERIANS OF THE NEW JEWS WORLD DISORDER) PUBLICLY AND SOLEMNLY RIGHT ON 2029 OR BEFORE 2029.

    WHY? BECAUSE IT WOULD BE EXACTLY 100 YEARS TIMEFRAME THAT GOD ALLOWED THOSE STUPID HARDHEAD BRAINWASHED BISHOPS TO DELAY HIS ORDER. AFTER THAT 100 YEARS TIMEFRAME... THEY WILL BE KILLED/CHASTISEMENT EXACTLY AS KING OF FRANCE FOR DELAYED THE CONSECRATION OF FRANCE TO HIS SACRED HEART.

    LEARN THE LESSON, LEARN THE WARNINGS YOU LUKEWARM-LAZY-IDIOT-BISHOPS OF THIS TIME. WAKE THE HELL UP. BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPIDITY AND BLASPHEMOUS, YOU HAVE BEEN GENOCIDE OVER 7 BILLIONS PEOPLE SO FAR UP TO THIS DAY (UNBORN BABIES, WARS, DISEASES, FAMINES, PERSECUTION OF CATHOLICS... etc, etc, etc.)

    The chastisement after the WW3 and 3 DAYS OF DARKNESS would take out 3/4 of all humanity. Think about that you wolves in sheepskin. Their blood and their souls lost to Hell are your verdict that you are going down to Hell 100% guaranty. For GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED.

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  5. I see no reason why Fr Rafferty would know of the envelope containing the Third Secret having been sent to Rome in 1957. But the available evidence shows that it was. It only makes sense that Pius XII, knowing of the infernal enemies he was up against, as well as the enemy infiltrators surrounding him in the Vatican, would as secretly as possible have it brought to him.

    Two priests who either accompanied the American Cardinal Stritch (d. 1958) for Pius XII's reading of the Secret in the company of various chosen cardinals, or heard something from him after he returned to the U.S., told the same thing to two different family households, members of which met years later. What they heard in 1957 is related in this short segment from an important series of interviews with the premier researcher into the persons and events surrounding the pivotal (and vitiated) 1958 papal conclave:
    youtube.com/watch?v=1-lvHTJsL6o (3 min 40 sec)

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    1. Darrell, please stop spreading your disinfo. You are brainwashed and controlled opposition.

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    2. Never trust the government. Also, take hearsay or what you read and put on your website with caution. They may or may not be true, just because someone said or may have written something.

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    3. Darrell, don't trust the government or their documents. Also, do not trust or believe persons from the Vatican or what others wrote too much!

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  6. Since 1929 is the 7th time, it must be the 7th time, right? In fact Our Lady said she would come a 7th time to ask for the consecration of Russia to Her Immaculate Heart, promising to save it by this means.

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  7. My dear Peter, Our Lady did appear seven times in 1917 Fatima. You will recall that the Masonic mayor of Orem--who later blew his fingers off making a bomb--kidnapped the three children on the morning of August 13, and kept them imprisoned for a day and a half precisely to stop the apparition.

    People gathered at the Cova da Iria that day in expectation of the apparition.

    Our Lady did not disappoint the faithful. Even though the chilfdren were not there, she kept her word. William Thomas Walsh reports that a shimmering light appeared over the holm oak and its branches bent as if under a weight. She kept Her word.

    Then she appeared again on August 19, 1917, a Sunday, when the children were praying after Mass and minding there flocks.

    So that makes seven. May 13th; June 13th; July 13th (the Third Secret & Vision of Hell); August 13th; August 19th; September 13th; and The Miracle of the Sun, October 13th, 1917 A. D.

    One Hundred and Five Years ago.

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    1. According to Marchi: The Crusade of Fatima p. 15 :

      " I came to ask you to come here for six consecutive months, on the thirteenth day, at this same hour. I will tell you later who I am and what I want.

      And I shall return here a again a sevent time."


      The freemasons have now openly admitted Roncalli to be a freemason.

      Before it was reported by the french intelligence agency that he frequented the masonic lodge every wednesday while papal nuncio in Paris.

      But now there is no arguing against the invalidity of the Second Vatican Council, freemason Roncalli being ipso facto excommunicated , losing all authority:

      https://traditioninaction.org/ProgressivistDoc/A_195_J23.html


      I can't find any reliable literature on the carmelite order and the scapular.

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    2. Roncalli was also invalidly elected since 2 days earlier Siri was threatened into invalid abdication, as is evidenced at whitesmoke1958.com and novusordowatch.org/2016/10/smoke-signals-white-smoke-1958
      More on antipope John XXIII at novusordowatch.org/john-xxiii

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    3. Why waste time on known heretics and events that happened in the past?

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    4. It sounds like a broken record !

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    5. Heretic Mel Gibson owns the rights to the "Cardinal Siri" story.

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    6. At least allegedly.

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  8. Only when the true church is fully restored. In the meantime, we can wait and wait. God will restore in His Own Way and in His Own Time.

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    1. In the meantime, we should "pray many rosaries," as Our Lady said young Francisco needed to do, and to all of us as well. She said that primarily not for him but for us. Padre Pio used to pray about 30 rosaries a day, since he knew the greater power given to it in our time, to compensate for the greater power given to Satan, and through him, his human agents, as was made known to Leo XIII in 1884.

      And we should often make acts of penance and self-denial and offer them with our rosaries in reparation for the sins committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary, which offend God immeasurably. As She told Sr Lucia: "There are so many souls whom the Justice of God condemns for sins committed against me, that I have come to ask reparation: sacrifice yourself for this intention and pray." (Our Lady of Fatima, 1929; e.g., Protestants and even many Catholic disbelieving in Mary's Immaculate Conception, perpetual virginity, Divine Motherhood; Queenship; not honoring Her as God wills; teaching children not to love and honor Her)

      As far as the "broken record," it may seem so to you, but this site gets new subscribers all the time, and besides, "repetitio mater studiorum." And it is not a waste of time to reveal the evils of known heretics and events that happened in the past. In fact, exposing the apostasy of John XXIII thru Benedict is more important than that of Francis, since merely revealing Francis as a betrayer and apostate will still leave deceived Catholics in their belief in the validity of the false Vatican II Council.

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    2. Do what is needed for salvation of our souls now, and for the salvation of others souls. Do not worry about what happened in the past. People never learn ! Go ever forward in Christ.

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    3. Maybe, God has intentions to replace the Church since it has been infiltrated and had failed, on both sides, with His Glory and Judgement, in the future. It is no longer saving souls, but has become a largely political entity, with shady dealing and heresies.

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    4. This post is for the brainwashed who do want the real truth, and for those who do nothing about the evils in this sick world, except read and spread disinformation. They may say that they pray, but God knows the heart and mind of each individual.

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    5. Darrell, it seems that you are a broken record !

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    6. Darell, you are the broken record and are brainwashed !

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  9. Stop giving our enemies such as SSPX and others, information they use against us, our position and the case of the imposter Sr. Lucy.



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