Francis Drives Neo-Traditionalists and Neo-Conservatives to Full Blown Gallicanism. Just Released Open Letter Accuses Francis of Formal and Public Heresy ---- Still Calls Him Pope ---- and demands that the "bishops of the Catholic Church" Depose Him if He Does Not Respond to and Obey Their Admonition.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5983408-Open-Letter-to-the-Bishops-of-the-Catholic.html
Dr. Chojnowski: This is an admonishment of the admonishers of Francis. The First See can be judged by no one. If you accuse a pope of falling into public heresy -- which you admit is done with his full knowledge and assent and pertinaciously --- you have created a new Church, which these signatories have done already by setting up the "bishops of the Catholic Church" ---- even in their minority, as judges of the orthodoxy of the man they freely and clearly claim to be pope. This is not Catholic, but rather Gallican, and differs not from the outlook of the Eastern Orthodox which would make the pope one subject to a collegial assembly of bishops. THIS IS HERESY AND YOU NOW RECEIVE MY SECOND ADMONITION, THE FIRST ONE BEING MADE IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR. I of course am only fooling here, I am not given any authority to judge a true pope BUT NEITHER ARE ANY OF THE SIGNATORIES OF THIS PUBLIC…
Dr. Chojnowski: This is an admonishment of the admonishers of Francis. The First See can be judged by no one. If you accuse a pope of falling into public heresy -- which you admit is done with his full knowledge and assent and pertinaciously --- you have created a new Church, which these signatories have done already by setting up the "bishops of the Catholic Church" ---- even in their minority, as judges of the orthodoxy of the man they freely and clearly claim to be pope. This is not Catholic, but rather Gallican, and differs not from the outlook of the Eastern Orthodox which would make the pope one subject to a collegial assembly of bishops. THIS IS HERESY AND YOU NOW RECEIVE MY SECOND ADMONITION, THE FIRST ONE BEING MADE IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR. I of course am only fooling here, I am not given any authority to judge a true pope BUT NEITHER ARE ANY OF THE SIGNATORIES OF THIS PUBLIC…
But Pope Benedict was at pains to stress that the NO IS the same liturgy. So Paul 6 did not change the Liturgy you see... the condemnations of Trent etc don't apply.
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He's not infallible unless he speaks in the right formula to proclaim something. So, perhaps he was just mistaken and, mistaken or not, he was and is still pope.
DeleteDear professor I have a question that maybe you will deem fit to answer at some time. Much of the "spirit of Vatican 2" centers around the so called newly discovered "dignity of Man." It is all wrapped up in modern personalism from philosophers like Husserl. JPll was much into this. The tradition and the Thomistic view do not in any way endorse this view. With original sin man lost original justice and needs a Redeemer to restore his dignity and friendship with God. If man has an innate dignity after the fall (not just traces) then he can redeem himself through ways other than Christ....is this what Vat2 teaches? Oh of course Jesus is the best way, but not the only way. It all sounds vaguely like Talmudic Freemasonry; Freedom, Equality and Fraternity...the Rights of man, the French Revolution (and communist revolution) with only a veneer of authentic Catholicism to trap the unsuspecting. The council more and more appears to be a disaster with criminal machinations involved. I have read Thomas on Craftiness, Guile and Fraud. To substantially depart from The Tradition is to cease to be Catholic. So was the Council a Catholic thing with traces of error or a very non Catholic thing with traces of Catholicism, I have come to believe it is the latter.
ReplyDeleteThe assertion that the NO is the same liturgy as the TLM defies common sense.
ReplyDeleteFr. Hesse made me into a traditional Catholic or lets just say plain old Catholic. You have to understand what you don't know first and he learned me when I was still going to the Novus Ordo on Sunday morning and wondering what was wrong.
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