Still Lookin' For the Light Switch? Cardinal Bertone Seemed to Have a Night Light in the Room of "Diabolical Disorientation" When He and "Sister Lucy" asserted that there was NO Distinct Third Secret, but only a Vision that Portrayed the Second Secret.
No more need to Cut and Paste, She's Just Fake!
Here is a part of the text presented by Cardinal Bertone --- at the time, Vatican Secretary of State --- in his official "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith Commentary on the Message of Fatima." He says in this that the Third Secret is really no more than a Vision that symbolically portrays the contents of the Second Secret. As presented by the, by no means "disoriented" Cardinal Bertone, "Sister Lucy" fulfills her "mission" --- in the most PERVERSE WAY IMAGINABLE --- by denying that there IS ANY THIRD SECRET. The most characteristic moment in the life of the Sole Messenger of the Third Secret is TO DENY THAT THERE IS A THIRD SECRET! Silly old fuddy duddy Catholic world who believed that Our Lady meant to convey something distinct to us, thinking for all those decades it was being held back from us. Lame John XXIII who said that, "This is not for my pontificate." Paul VI and John Paul II put it aside even though it was ONLY a vision describing EXACTLY what was already in the Second Secret, that had been released some 60 years before. So, whereas the First Secret and the Second Secret HAD distinct messages to the world, the Third Secret does not; in fact, it is just a pious illustration of the content of the Second Secret. NOTHING TO SEE HERE! Looks like we changed "Sister Lucys" just to keep from public release a holy card illustration of the Second Secret that anyone could have read back in the 1940s.
Here is the relevant part of Cardinal Bertone's text written in 2000:
Sister Lucia had already given an indication for interpreting the third part of the “secret” in a letter to the Holy Father, dated 12 May 1982:
“The third part of the secret refers to Our Lady's words: ‘If not [Russia] will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated' (13-VII-1917).
The third part of the secret is a symbolic revelation, referring to this part of the Message, conditioned by whether we accept or not what the Message itself asks of us: ‘If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, etc.'.
Since we did not heed this appeal of the Message, we see that it has been fulfilled, Russia has invaded the world with her errors. And if we have not yet seen the complete fulfilment of the final part of this prophecy, we are going towards it little by little with great strides. If we do not reject the path of sin, hatred, revenge, injustice, violations of the rights of the human person, immorality and violence, etc.
And let us not say that it is God who is punishing us in this way; on the contrary it is people themselves who are preparing their own punishment. In his kindness God warns us and calls us to the right path, while respecting the freedom he has given us; hence people are responsible”.(5)
Just like a magic act, the "ball" of the Third Secret, is shuffled around under the cups by Cardinal Bertone and "Sister Lucy" and then IT DISAPPEARS. Boiled down, what the Vatican said and what "Sister Lucy" EXPLICITLY AFFIRMED was that there was no Third Secret. A mere illustration is not a secret.
Do you think it would be permissible (without risking the loss of your soul) to attend Mass, receive Holy Communion and go to confession at a sedevacantist chapel even if you aren't fully convinced they are right?ReplyDelete
Dr Chojnowski, I have pasted a link from an interview with the late Cardinal Caffarra regarding the letter he received from Sister Lucia in the very early '80's. Is it possible, considering the content of her message to him that this could be the real Sister Lucia? I mean, it seems authentically Catholic. I know from your previous posts that the fake Lucy shows up on the scene in the '70's. It would be nice to have the handwriting expert review that letter. This is just so damn sad.ReplyDelete
The terms of the message ("Sr. Lucia’s prophetic words that “the decisive battle” between the Lord and Satan would be over marriage and the family “is being fulfilled today,”) contradicts the true last message of the true Sister Lucy in 1957 : "Father, the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Blessed Virgin. And the devil knows what it is that offends God the most, and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God, because in this way the devil will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, thereby the more easily will he seize them."Delete
"The devil knows that religious and priests who fall away from their beautiful vocation drag numerous souls to hell. … The devil wishes to take possession of consecrated souls."
"That which afflicts the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the Heart of Jesus is the fall of religious and priestly souls. The devil knows that religious and priests who fall away from their beautiful vocation drag numerous souls to hell. … The devil wishes to take possession of consecrated souls. He tries to corrupt them in order to lull to sleep the souls of laypeople and thereby lead them to final impenitence. He employs all tricks, even going so far as to suggest the delay of entrance into religious life. Resulting from this is the sterility of the interior life, and among the laypeople, coldness (lack of enthusiasm) regarding the subject of renouncing pleasures and the total dedication of themselves to God."
To anonymous above, these are confusing and desperate times, so confusing, that even if you were wrong, about Bergoglio, not being the Pope, you could be forgiven for thinking that, because of mitigating conditions.ReplyDelete
I don't think even their most radical critics would dispute that the intention of most sedevacantists is to do what The Church has always done, at a time, when anyone could be forgiven for thinking, that now, is the fulfilment of the prophecy of Our Lady of La Salette, that 'Rome would lose the faith and become the seat of the Anti-Christ', because if this isn't it, what would it look it?
What you can't be forgiven for, without confession and repudiation of beliefs, is if you knowingly, and with pertinacity, trash the Traditional Catholic doctrine of the papacy, which is what the R&R camp does.
To deny any doctrine, in such a manner, is formal heresy, and the reason, Saint Pope Pius X said it was the worst of all sins, is that to commit it, you have to know, exactly, what you're doing, and choose freely, to do it anyway, and without going into them, there are reasons why, the masons targeted the papacy, because without a final theological authority, you have The Tower of Babel, not the New Jerusalem.
Equally, if you look at what The Church taught before Vatican II, Bergoglio, if you read Fr. Krammer's recent book, has made it so obvious that he does not believe, what Pope Pius XII and all the Popes before him believed, that I think anyone, who denies it, is either pathologically, intellectually dishonest or mentally ill, and Bergoglio also said and did, numerous things before he was elected, that prove that he wasn't a Catholic, which in itself would mean that he is not the Pope, and that no Catholic can or should be in communion with him, because he quite simply, does not believe, what Catholics believe, and at best, at least for the moment, sometimes pretends that he does, for strategic political purposes and to maintain the state of chaos and confusion he has created.
In such circumstances, you have little choice, if you are fortunate enough to have a reputable Mass in your area, whose priests are not in communion with Francis, but to attend it. What you can't do, is go to a Mass, where you 'pray in communion with Francis our pope', because if you're a Catholic, you're not in communion with him, because he's a heretic, and he's not the Pope. The same sin is involved, if you were to drop in for a black mass at the local Satanic temple.
Patrick, thank you. Please tell me the title of the book by Father Kramer so that I might purchase it.Delete
Even if I am uncertain as to whether or not Francis is pope, would it still be alright if I chose to go to a sedevacantist chapel instead of an sspx chapel?
Bertone is one of the people in this tragic scandal, who just makes me mad, because everything he says, indeed his entire demeanour, reeks of deception, dishonesty, and disdain for the truth and the faithful. I just can't finish reading that rubbish he spouted as an explanation for the Third Secret.ReplyDelete
Sister Lucy Truth is of incalculable worth because truth of that magnitude can only be valuable.ReplyDelete
The secrets of Fatima would have also had more worth, had they been published before, not after, the events had taken place. It was only in 1942 that the authority of the hierarchy permitted the publication of the Secret (except for the third part). By that time, the public did not need prophecy to tell them they were in the middle of a war.
From the 1960's until today, we have witnessed the birth of a false new Church, which has eclipsed the true Church. Again, history unfolded itself without the public having prior knowledge of future events.
The Church teaches that She does not, and cannot impose belief in a private revelation and its contents, either on an individual or on the faithful at large. Although Fatima has been approved by the Church, this only means that the message contains nothing contrary to faith and morals and that there is sufficient evidence to justify belief in its authenticity. But the Fatima Secret is a private revelation, which means it is not contained in Sacred Scripture and Tradition. The consecration and conversion of Russia is not mentioned in the Bible. It is not the basis of the Christian religion.
What kind of liars and deceivers are we dealing with here in Vatican 2 la la land? Well look at their latest staged deception or planned hoax. The alleged pachamama statue theft and recovery.....found just in time for Bergoglio to put them on display in St. Peters on Sunday and slap all catholics and christians right across the face. They enjoy doing this kind of thing so much. The same evil deceitful mentality that gave us the two Lucy hoax lives on and on and on.ReplyDelete