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Is this Why they Needed to Get Rid of Sister Lucy and Substitute an Impostor? I wonder what "False Church" Padre Pio was speaking about in 1960? Can't Imagine.
Prior to his death in 2016, Fr. Gabriele Amorth had performed over 70,000 exorcisms over a span of 30 years. He founded the International Association of Exorcists in 1990.
Fr. Amorth personally knew Saint (Padre) Pio for 26 years, and it is from this towering figure of 20th century Catholic sanctity that he claims to have learned the contents of the Third Secret of Fatima. According to Fr. Amorth, Padre Pio said that the Third Secret pertained to the infiltration of the Vatican by Satan and the rise of a “false church” – details that are not found in the Vatican’s official publication of the Third Secret in 2000. Below we publish details of the interview with Fr. Amorth:
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In the interview, Fr. Amorth relates — as he has done elsewhere — that he does not believe the consecration of the world by Pope John Paul II in 1984 was sufficient to satisfy the requirements set forth by Our Lady.
“There was no such consecration then,” he [Father Amorth] says. “I witnessed the act. I was in St. Peter’s Square that Sunday afternoon, very close to the Pope; so close, I could almost touch him.”
Pressed by Zavala as to why he so forcefully believes that the consecration was not done, Fr. Amorth replied: “Very simple: John Paul II wanted to mention Russia expressly, but in the end he did not.”
Fr. Amorth said further: “I have no doubt that the consecration did not occur on the terms required by the Virgin. But we must not lose sight of what she herself wanted to tell us through Lucia: ‘In the end My Immaculate Heart will triumph.’”
Zavala then asked about the Third Secret: “Forgive me for insisting on the Third Secret of Fatima: Did Padre Pio relate it, then, to the loss of faith within the Church?”
Fr. Gabriele furrows his brow and sticks out his chin. He seems very affected.
“Indeed,” he states, “One day Padre Pio said to me very sorrowfully: ‘You know, Gabriele? It is Satan who has been introduced into the bosom of the Church and within a very short time will come to rule a false Church.’”
“Oh my God! Some kind of Antichrist! When did he prophesy this to you?” I [Zavala] ask.
“It must have been about 1960, since I was already a priest then.”
“Was that why John XXIII had such a panic about publishing the Third Secret of Fatima, so that the people wouldn’t think that he was the anti-pope or whatever it was …?”
A slight but knowing smile curls the lips of Father Amorth.
“Did Padre Pio say anything else to you about future catastrophes: earthquakes, floods, wars, epidemics, hunger …? Did he allude to the same plagues prophesied in the Holy Scriptures?” [asks Mr. Zavala]
“Nothing of the sort mattered to him, however terrifying they proved to be, except for the great apostasy within the Church. This was the issue that really tormented him and for which he prayed and offered a great part of his suffering, crucified out of love.” [says Fr. Amorth]
“The Third Secret of Fatima?”
“Exactly.”
“Is there any way to avoid something so terrible, Fr. Gabriele?”
“There is hope, but it’s useless if it’s not accompanied by works. Let us begin by consecrating Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, let us recite the Holy Rosary, let us all do prayer and penance …”∎
So allegedly Padre Pio said to Fr. Amorth in 1960 that Satan had already “been introduced into the bosom of the Church and within a very short time will come to rule a false Church [sic]”. Ignoring the fact that this is third hand testimony, let’s assume that it is true. What can we say about Padre Pio who gave no public warnings about the impending false church? Why would Fr. Amorth wish to keep such a thing secret? Why would he want it to be published after his death? Why did he remain in good standing with a false church? Or are we to understand that the Conciliar church is not a false church? In which case why are we not all conservative neo-Catholics? I think the easiest answer to all these questions is that Zavala isn’t a reliable source.
Even if Padre Pio really did whisper a private warning to someone about a "false church", of what use was it anyway? It's now half a century after the fact, when the evidence is right before everyone's eyes. We don't need a mystic to tell us the obvious. Besides, why did Padre Pio send a letter of support to Paul VI on September 12th, 1968? Wasn't he aware of Paul VI's role regarding the "false church"?
"An article by our friend Maike Hickson, formerly from onepeterfive.com...." from above. There seems to have been some change at onepeterfive.com and I was wondering if this confusing quote is to be taken as, "an article formerly from onepeterfive.com" or as "Maike Hickson, formerly from onepeterfive.com? If it is the latter phrasing that is meant, is it possible to explain what may have happened? Thank you.
Here are the list of the 53 Cardinals who met in Rome for the Conclave in Rome in October 1958. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_electors_for_the_1958_papal_conclave Dr. Chojnowski: This telegraph from Ambassador Zellerbach (US ambassador to Italy) and the Secretary of State of the United States under the Eisenhower administration, John Foster Dulles is a clear path mark indicating to us what we should be looking for as regards the happenings in the 1958 papal conclave that met from October 25-28, exactly 2 weeks after this telegram to the US Secretary of State was written and sent. What do we read in this telegram and why does it matter in our investigation into the fate of Sister Lucy dos Santos of Fatima? We do not, as of yet, have a smoking gun telegram, but this one is clearly a picture of a double-barrel shot gun loaded, locked, safety off, aimed, and finger on the trigger communication. The US government seems an imminent "threat" and it is ready to act --- n
Did Our Lady Predict, in 1920, the Constant Persecution and Final Demise of Sister Lucy of Fatima? It appears so. Dr. Chojnowski: Here are a basic chronological description of the life of Lucy dos Santos up until her sudden disappearance sometimes between 1957 and 1967. I would like to put special emphasis --- as I did with my bolding of the text and capitalization --- on the Prophecy that Our Lady made to Jacinta immediately before her death concerning her cousin Lucy. For all of the below, we follow the account given in the excellent text by Mark Fellows, Fatima in Twilight (Niagra Falls, Ontario: Marmion Publications, 2003). The Life of Lucia dos Santos, Seer of Fatima Life before and during the Apparition, both of the Angel and of the Mother of God Lucia dos Santos, born the sixth and last child of Antonio and Maria dos Santos. She came into the world on March 22, 1907. Her family and that of her 1 st cousins Jacinta and Franscisco Marto lived in a little
Here is the Just Released Statement of the Fatima Center: Pinned by The Fatima Center @TheFatimaCenter 3 hours ago The Fatima Center's position is that it has been established with reasonable certainty that the woman presenting herself as Sister Lucia in all known public photos from 1967 onward was not the true Lucia.
So allegedly Padre Pio said to Fr. Amorth in 1960 that Satan had already “been introduced into the bosom of the Church and within a very short time will come to rule a false Church [sic]”. Ignoring the fact that this is third hand testimony, let’s assume that it is true. What can we say about Padre Pio who gave no public warnings about the impending false church? Why would Fr. Amorth wish to keep such a thing secret? Why would he want it to be published after his death? Why did he remain in good standing with a false church? Or are we to understand that the Conciliar church is not a false church? In which case why are we not all conservative neo-Catholics? I think the easiest answer to all these questions is that Zavala isn’t a reliable source.
ReplyDeleteEven if Padre Pio really did whisper a private warning to someone about a "false church", of what use was it anyway? It's now half a century after the fact, when the evidence is right before everyone's eyes. We don't need a mystic to tell us the obvious. Besides, why did Padre Pio send a letter of support to Paul VI on September 12th, 1968? Wasn't he aware of Paul VI's role regarding the "false church"?
ReplyDelete"An article by our friend Maike Hickson, formerly from onepeterfive.com...." from above. There seems to have been some change at onepeterfive.com and I was wondering if this confusing quote is to be taken as, "an article formerly from onepeterfive.com" or as "Maike Hickson, formerly from onepeterfive.com? If it is the latter phrasing that is meant, is it possible to explain what may have happened? Thank you.
ReplyDeleteMaike Hickson is no longer at onepeterfive.com. I am going to have to let her explain why.
DeleteCan you make the connection between fake Lucy and the demonic sodomites? Do you think BVM thought sacrilege was enough to offer a secret about?
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