Star-Spangled Takeover of the Catholic Church: Does Eisenhower/John XXIII Meeting on St. Nicholas Day, 1959 Clearly Indicate that it was Americanism that Roncalli Imposed Upon the Catholic Church at Vatican II? Looks like it.

                                 "Hand Over the Church." "We will see what 'spiritual initiatives' we can launch. Mr. President."

390. Memorandum of Conference With President Eisenhower

Those present:

  • The Pope
  • Cardinal Tardini
  • Msgr. Samore
  • Lt. Col. Vernon Walters

The President said how pleased and honored he was to have this opportunity to meet the Pope during his visit. He had undertaken this trip to a part of the free world which was extremely important.

He did not expect any new treaties or agreements to result from his trip but if anything could be done to advance the cause of peace, he would feel that it had been worthwhile. As he approached the end of his term as President, he felt that his efforts, which earlier might have been thought by some to be politically inspired, might now perhaps be more effective.

He was also visiting a number of countries in the Middle East which needed “shoring up.”1 The only desire of the American people was for peace and friendship in liberty. He felt that freedom could exist only where there was respect for the spiritual values and a belief in Almighty God. This had always been the basis of our government. In fact in our Declaration of Independence it was stated that “All men are created equal and endowed by their creator....”2 If this is not accepted, then all that is left are material things. If a man is only an intelligent mule and can be dominated by force, then why not do it. This has never been the belief of the American people.

The Pope then said that he was very happy to see the President again. He quite agreed with what the President had said about peace and justice. This was the teaching of the gospel and this was what the Church sought to do. The American people had always shown their great respect for spiritual values.

The President said that free government must be based on belief in an Almighty Creator. Several of the countries he was about to visit were [Page 885]Moslem countries and, consequently, shared with us a common belief in God. He hoped this would help him in the message he was carrying. Peace was essential. We just could not afford to have a war with the tremendous weapons of destruction which now exist.

Peoples all over the world know that they do not have to live in poverty, hunger, and disease and their urgent desire for a better lot was one of the great problems of our time. We wanted to do everything that we could to assist them towards this better life. He was convinced that the Pope himself and the Papacy were two of the greatest spiritual forces in the world.

The Pope smilingly upheld that he could not do much in the way of a military contribution but that there were some spiritual forces and energies that he could mobilize around the world to support these noble aims. He said that he d always had great respect for the President before but that now that he knew what was in the President’s heart and what his purposes were, his respect was even greater than before. He only regretted his inability to speak English and he was endeavoring to correct this by taking English lessons. Recently, there had been celebrated the 100th anniversary of the foundation of the North American College and more than 70 American bishops had attended together with large numbers of priests and laity and he had been deeply impressed by them. He prayed that God would bless the great American people. He knew that Americans not only had a high standard of living and great technical skills but were also a people of deep faith and high spiritual values.

The President said that several of the American cardinals were close friends. Cardinal Mooney was also a golfer and he had often wanted to play with him but never had been able to do so. The Pope said that Cardinal Mooney had died recently in Rome.3 The President said that Cardinals Spellman and Mclntyre were also friends of his. He had also met Cardinal Cushing4 a few times but did not know some of the newer cardinals but he could assure the Pope that they were greatly beloved and respected in the United States. The Pope said he was most happy to hear this.

The Pope said that it was curious that the President had started out as a soldier and had become President and that he had started out as a sergeant and had become Pope. The President laughed and said that he felt that his having been a soldier might perhaps be helpful to him in driving home how important it was to preserve peace. The fact that he knew the horrors of war gave added force to his words. The Pope [Page 886]agreed and said that he did indeed feel that this was so. The President then said that this was also true in the case of the Pope who had come from the field of Diplomacy to the Papacy.

The Pope recalled that he had seen the President at the funeral of Marshal De Lattre de Tassigny.5 He stated that the President had followed the bier on a long walk across Paris on a bitterly cold day. He himself had been in the comfort of the Diplomatic stand but he had noticed that at the end of the ceremony, of the four great soldiers around the bier, only the American was still straight and upright. Now that he had talked to the President and knew the noble purpose of his trip, he realized that this uprightness in the physical sense reflected an inner and spiritual uprightness in the President.

The Pope then said that the story of how he became a sergeant was quite amusing. He was in the Army and he came up for an examination for sergeant. In the oral and written part of the test he had no difficulty and, in fact, was praised by the examining board. However, when he came to the practical part of the test he had some difficulty. He was asked to prepare his platoon for an assault. He called them to attention and gave the order to “fix bayonets” and then as was the custom in the Italian Army during the days of monarchy cried, “Avanti Savoia” (Forward Savoy). However, instead of leading his platoon, he just stood still and watched. Had it been a real attack instead of a test, he would have been a sitting duck and would undoubtedly been killed before he could have done anything with his platoon. However, the board was in a good mood that day so they made him a sergeant anyway.

The President said that this recalled another amusing story. His brother, Milton, was the President of Johns Hopkins University. One of his predecessors had been a great friend of Cardinal Gibbons.6 This president of Johns Hopkins had a very precocious little daughter who used to listen to her father and Cardinal Gibbons talking. One day she received the Cardinal alone in the absence of her father and she asked him whether he believed in the infallibility of the Pope. The Cardinal thought for a minute and then said that he had been received by the Pope who had addressed him as Cardinal “Jibbons” so that perhaps papal infallibility did not extend to pronunciation. The Pope laughed heartily and said that it definitely did not extend to pronunciation and his efforts to learn English were proof thereof.

The Pope said that he understood that the President was accompanied by his son and daughter-in-law. He had a bond in common with the President’s son because his name was also John. He said that he [Page 887]intended to refer to this in the little talk he would give when the remainder of the President’s party were introduced. The President said that he himself had been legally named David Dwight Eisenhower but his mother had always called him Dwight and when he had gone to West Point, he had listed himself as Dwight David Eisenhower and had always been known that way since. Now John’s son was called Dwight David II.

The President then asked the Pope who John XXII was and when he had reigned. The Pope said that John was the name used by the largest number of Popes. John XXII had lived in the 14th century. He had been one of the early Popes at Avignon. He had been a very intelligent and energetic man and had done much to revise the juridical system of the church. However, he had been a little “loose” in the handling of money where his relatives were concerned and so had not left such as good memory as a Pope.

Pope John then thanked the President for calling on him and wished him success on his mission. He said that now that he had an opportunity to talk with the President and of knowing the noble purposes of his mind, he would pray for the success of his trip and added, “I will always remember you in my prayers.”

The President thanked the Pope again for the opportunity of calling on him and the private talk then concluded as other members of the President’s party were introduced in to the Pope’s study. [Emphases in the above text are mine, PEC]

Vernon A. Walters7
Lt. Colonel, U.S. Army
    Dr. Chojnowski Commentary: This meeting in Rome in December of 1959, when President Eisenhower is on a "mission of peace" in order to "shore up" certain countries, has got to be one of the most symbolic and important meetings in the history of the post-Pius XII Church. The subtle, unspoken ideas that are bandied about, in very nonchalant form, cover the fact that here something very important is going on. Clearly, Eisenhower has a specific message to convey to John XXIII. The message is simple, the Catholic Church, now so well-connected in the United States with the sources of power and influence, must conform to the ideology of the "free world." This will not be a problem, because from 1776 on, Americans have been devoted to "spiritual values." This belief in, dare I say it, a Grand Architect of the Universe, is part the basic understanding of both the United States and the Catholic Church. It is, also, Ike mentions, the same belief held by Muslims in the countries that he will be visiting also. All the "free" world, Masonic/Low-church Protestant America, the Catholic Church in Rome, and the Muslims of the Near East all believe in the same God, they have "spiritual values," they desire "peace" above all. Doesn't this sound like the very essence of what the Novus Ordo Counterfeit church has been pushing and trying to dogmatize since the mid-60s. Perhaps the most telling paragraph is the following:
    "Peoples all over the world know that they do not have to live in poverty, hunger, and disease and their urgent desire for a better lot was one of the great problems of our time. We wanted to do everything that we could to assist them towards this better life. He was convinced that the Pope himself and the Papacy were two of the greatest spiritual forces in the world."
    John XXIII, for his part, displays not the slightest objection to anything that Eisenhower says, even though it is so obviously Masonic and secular in its attitude and agenda. In fact, he goes out of his way to indicate complete accord with this agenda of a generic God and a generic peace, constantly indicating how much he deeply admires Eisenhower himself, the American People, the American Experiment, and the mission that Eisenhower was engaged in to strong-arm any possible objectors to the Star-Spangled Agenda. He too wanted the "god" that the Muslim's had, the "peace" that a secular Masonic leader could bring, and those nondescript moral and spiritual values that were already articulated in, guess what, the Declaration of Independence, the same document that condemned the Quebec Act 1774 that legalized the practice of the Catholic Religion in Canada. There is not one suggestion to which John XXIII brings up the SLIGHTEST objection. There is never any "catechetical moments" in which the good father instructs his wayward heretical son in the authentic teachings of Christ as these are infallibly articulated by the Catholic Church throughout the centuries. No, there is complete acquiescence and surrender to the will and the "Spirit of 76." Is not this meeting a clear indication of what will take place in the 1960s, during which time the Church will accept all the things that the United States and the Americanist Catholic Church of Bishop John Carroll were pushing since 1776. Have not both John Paul II and Benedict XVI said that religious liberty was the central accomplishment of the Council? The Soviet Union plays no role here other than as a potential nuclear adversary. It seems clear that it is the Americans, as represented by Eisenhower, and not the Soviets, that are John XXIII's "masters." 
    The question arises. Did the United States government, either themselves or through organizations advancing the same agenda as the US government, get John XXIII elected? When Eisenhower came to Rome a year later, was he collecting on IOUs?


    1. "John XXIII" displays not the slightest objection to all of these Freemasonic ideas, nay, even is entirely supportive of them for the simple reason that he himself was a Freemason of the 33rd degree initiated in the Free and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry while nuncio in Paris, and previously to that initiated in Rosicrucianism while a diplomat in Turkey. Further, the nickname "Good" "pope" John refers to his Cathar - i.e. gnostic/Manichaean pedigree, since Cathars were known during the middle ages as "good" men - a "good" man would be a reference to a Cathar/gnostic man, etc. Even today there is famous hiking route running through the Pyrenees close to Andorra known as the "Way of the 'good' men", through which scores of Cathars fled into the Iberian penisula as a result of persecution during the Albigensian crusades. One of the heros of these crusades, Simon de Montfort, miraculously crushed the vastly superior forces of the Count of Toulouse and King Peter II of Aragon in the famous battle of Muret through the intercession of Our Lady. I reckon the great Marian saint St Louis Marie Grignion choosing to end his name as "de Montfort" is not merely coincidental.

    2. The Elites and Politicians of this world colluded with the "traitors from within" sold out the church of Christ clearly, no doubt. They hijacked and invaded the church since 1958 to the present, 100% outright. Their men have took all the key positions and the church has been ever since collapsed into "underground, Catacomb." Those who are with and in the Vatican II Conciliar church are not Catholics but they have changed their religion into the religion of NWO-Synagogue of Satan. Their "new mass" is for their new religion. Why have had so many Catholics can't even figure it out yet? The 3rd Secret of Fatima specifically exposed them, top to bottom, and left to right. That's why they have to silent the voice of the "messenger: the real Sister Lucia." Time is now, now is for the real CRUSADERS to be formed. We are the heel of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Time to smash their heads off. Can't let them insult and destroy the Kingship of Christ and the Co-Redemptorist of Mary any longer. Either we fight as we supposed to be or God will eliminate us all for being unfaithful. Be silence is a sign of weakness and agreeable with them. God or Satan? Can't stand in the middle ground, folks. Don't be afraid, use your time, talents, resources to bring out the TRIUMPH OF THE IMMACULATE HEART. We have all the Spiritual Weapons that we need and the other weapons will be provided by God himself. This will not be long. 3 DAYS OF DARKNESS WILL COME AS SUDDENDLY. They can't escape this.

    3. Totally concur with findings. This was the beginning of the "takeover of Catholic Church" effectively all "Popes" from 1958 are fake and confirms the obstruction of a conclave. So Sr Lucy was most probably taken out too. The truth as I see it will be revealed in God's time. All that is hidden will be revealed. However we keep digging and supporting this great site.


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