Before he INFALLIBLY decided who was Pope (2016), John Salza INFALLIBLY decided that the Earth was at the Center of the Universe (2010) .....If you should ask.......well what about the Sun? ANATHEMA SIT!!!!

I do not wish to enter into the scientific or philosophical aspects of the cosmological debate. I will say that such empirical speculation is not a matter for the Church's infallible magisterium. Here Mr. Salza says that if you do not believe the earth is the center of the of the universe YOU ARE A HERETIC AND NOT A CATHOLIC ---- well, maybe they need a few admonitions at least before the excommunication candle is snuffed. I guess they can join Fr. Paul Kramer, Fr. Nicholas Gruner, and Fr. Anthony Cekada and all the others who have been declared INFALLIBLY NOT CATHOLIC by Mr. Salza. 


  1. "I will say that such empirical speculation is not a matter for the Church's infallible magisterium."

    You'd be wrong. The Church definitively made a canonical ruling against Galileo's propositions as being FORMALLY HERETICAL. And not because of any scientific inquiries, but because Galileo and Copernicus contradict the plain reading of Scripture as well as infallible Dogma based on the Council of Trent which taught that no one can interpret the Scriptures apart from the consensus of the Fathers. On which they were unanimous about the Earth's position as central and non-moving, and the scientific data confirms that.

    It was the Church, St. Robert Bellarmine, the Holy Pontiffs and the Holy Inquisition that said that those who accept these propositions contrary to Scripture and Tradition are heretics. Not Salza.

    As Salza and Sungenis rightly argue, this ruling has not been lifted, but much like other teachings has been left to fall by the wayside in the face of modernity, so the implication is that it is still binding on Catholics today. But the majority reject it due to invincible ignorance.

    This is a topic that Catholics have to grapple with. The standard apologetic that the Church was getting involved in matters that was none of its business is demonstrably false. It saw heresy and it took measures to destroy it, and science today vindicates the Church. And one need only read the ruling against Galileo to see that it had to do with articles of the faith.

    The other major significance of this is that given the fact that the Church began abandoning defence of this teaching around the late 1800s, even with Popes stating in encyclicals that the belief in heliocentrism might be true, that the idea that the Popes are completely immune from all error by the Holy Spirit is false, either because the Popes were wrong prior to Galileo, or they were wrong after Galileo. In either case, one would have to accuse the Holy Spirit of screwing up, which would be absurd.

    Given that Cardinal Ratzinger admitted that the Second Vatican Council was convened as a result of the implications of the Galileo affair where the Church had to reconcile the faith with the advance of the modern world, there are BIG implications to it. Especially considering that not even the Novus Ordo Popes ever contravened the declaration of Heresy by their predecessors, instead tip toe-ing around it, with John Paul II appealing to Relativity, and even Ratzinger admitting that science could not demonstrate its case against the Church.


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